Spotlight Interview With 2008 Players Cup Champion Eric McCabe
Finishing off his best year to date with a win at the Players Cup, Eric McCabe is a fresh face on the long list of Major Championship winners. On the other hand, he is clearly not new to successful finishes or big payouts, and is well known and respected throughout the game. Vibram Open TD Steve Dodge spoke of McCabe after reviewing tape from the 2008 tournament and said, “whether [Eric] has a good shot or a bad shot, his body language seems to be the same. His body language is saying to me - wow, I am playing disc golf and this is wicked cool.”
A baseball player during his childhood and through High School, Eric was also involved in gymnastics for 12 years. Flexibility, balance, patience and focus in athletics easily helped Eric transition from excellence in one sport to the next - and he’s only just begun. Over the past two years Eric has found a way to travel and play professional disc golf exclusively. This produced his two most successful years on tour. In fact, before 2007, he’d never hit the $10,000 mark during one year. That changed in 2007 and 2008 with a combined sum of over $40,000 in winnings.
We caught up with him shortly after his recent win in Florida to talk about his successful year on tour and his life on the road…
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1000 RATED: First off, we would like to congratulate you on winning the 2008 Players Cup. You came close in 2006; tied with Gregg Barsby with a 2nd place finish and 4 strokes behind winner Avery Jenkins. This year both you and Barsby were at it again, but were fighting for the lead. Down by a stroke going into the final day, what was your plan? We know you birdied 7 of the last 9 holes to secure the win, but can you enlighten us on what happened on some of those holes - Perhaps some play by play of the defining moments? Also, how does it finally feel to capture a Major after all of these years? |
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1000 RATED: In 2008 You’ve competed in 32 events (15 1st place finishes) with winnings of over $27,000. It should also be noted that you won over $1,000 in 15 different events this year, and have cashed in the last 78 tournaments you’ve played in - dating back to November of 2005. Virtually doubling your previous best year of $13,000+, 2008 was a huge improvement, currently placing you 3rd on the money list. You competed in only 6 more events than you did in 2007, but the difference was substantial. How does it feel to have such a successful year after all the hard work, travel, and competition - has it soaked in yet? Other than the Players Cup, What are some of the highlights and memories from this year on tour that you’d like to share with our readers? |
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1000 RATED: Just out of curiosity, what was your reaction when Chalmers hit that 3 to tie during the final few seconds of regulation? |
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ERIC: Needless to say, we went absolutely insane! I’m pretty sure it was that time I lost my voice! Rock Chalk Jayhawk!! |
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1000 RATED: Let’s go back through time and remember the day you found out about disc golf. Who introduced you to the game and when exactly did it happen - do you have a fond memory of this experience? At what point did you become serious about the competition and when and why do you think you really found your passion and desire to pursue this ongoing quest? |
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ERIC: I was introduced to the Disc Golf the summer of 1994, by three friends, Jim Ramsey, Mike Gentry and Don Carter. I remember going out to the local course and throwing. I was instantly hooked. I became serious right away, as a matter of fact, I played in a tournament shortly after being introduced to the sport. I played about everyday, and was getting better and better. In 2000 I turned pro after winning the KCWO in Advanced. It was such a great feeling, I knew then I wanted to take my game to the next level. It was in 2003 I really found my passion and desire to pursue Disc Golf as a lifestyle. I finished 3rd place at the 03 Zboaz Open and got my first taste of a final 9. Playing in front of a gallery was thrilling. I was so nervous at the beginning of the round, but calmed down a couple holes in. I knew then I was going to work hard and do whatever it would take to play golf |
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1000 RATED: You’ve obviously been playing at the Pro level for quite a while and have become well respected and somewhat revered over the last 5 years or so. During this time you have most likely developed some great friendships, relationships, and interested acquaintances. Can you talk a little about who you’ve met within the game and what this has done for you and your level of play? |
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ERIC: Yes, I have met and developed a lot of great friendships while playing Disc Golf. Probably the most important was meeting Liz Lopez. I met Liz at the ZBoaz Open in Fort Worth, Texas. She has been a huge part of my life the last couple years and her support has made a real positive impact on my game. There is no one else I want to share this experience with more than her. We have pretty much been all over the Country the past two years. There are so many good people in the Disc Golf community that will do pretty much anything for you. Two of the people that stand out to us the most are Matt and Tracy Petre. We met them at the Texas State Championships, where they opened their home to us, since then they have become great friends of ours. Another person I’ve met on the Disc Golf course was Jeremy Rusco with Dynamic Discs. Rusco has been a big part of helping keep me on the road. Dynamic Discs is a fairly new company. He spends most of his time running quality tournaments. You can check him out at Dynamicdiscs.com. Travis Blasé, LD Aspegren, David Hemmeline, and Chris Smith are a few more good friends I’ve acquired while on tour. Each of them has had a positive impact on my game. |
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1000 RATED: Going along with this last question - out of all of the people you have met and been influenced by, what do you think is the most important piece of advice about the game you’ve ever been taught and why? |
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1000 RATED: If you could offer your own advice, what three tips would you give to developing players who are trying to raise their level of play? |
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ERIC: #1. Practice. The best way to practice is to not just go and play rounds of golf. Grab your favorite stack of discs, go to an open field, and work on all kinds of different shots. If possible, take a video camera with you. It will be a lot easier to fix what’s wrong when you see what’s wrong. Another thing is, don’t be afraid to ask questions. Find your local Pro, he or she should be able to answer any questions you might have. #2. Putting. What it really comes down to is practice, and repetition. Find yourself a basket, and a few putters, I use the D Challenger. Stand about 15 feet from the basket, putt until you feel comfortable from that range. Then move back a few steps. Continue this process at least three times a week. About an hour of putting practice will become routine in no time. The biggest things to remember while putting is to follow through, and remain balanced at all times. Do this and you will see your putt improve. #3. Play. Probably one of the best ways to improve your game is to play your local leagues, or minis. It’s usually inexpensive, and as competitive as most local tournaments. Another good idea is to, if possible, play with golfers that are better than you. This will help you pick up tips and see different shots you might not have known about |
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1000 RATED: Over the last few years you’ve been quite a road warrior. This year alone you’ve played 32 tournaments in 16 different states (TX, NV, AZ, CA, KY, KS, MO, OK, IA, MN, CO, OR, MA, MI, SC, FL). Other than the competitive drive and success week after week, what keeps you going? Although you’ve had a monetarily beneficial year, what is it you do to make sure your keeping your expenses low while travelling? Also, Are there any interesting or funny stories from the road you’d like to share from this year or the past? |
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It can be tough keeping the expenses low on the road. The best way is try and find a local to stay with, or camp out. I’d say the biggest expense would have to be gas and food. There’s not much you can do about gas. I try to eat a lot of sandwiches while on the road. This can be a pain, but well worth it saving you some extra cash on the road. Probably one of the most interesting stories I have from touring would be at last year’s Players Cup. After the first round, Liz and I decided we wanted to swim with the Manatees, which in Crystal River, Florida is a huge tourist attraction. We rented a canoe for 2 hours and started our journey. Neither one of us had been in a canoe in years, so it was a very interesting trip down the canal. We finally arrived to the Island and dropped anchor. Liz was going to jump in the water first so I held the boat steady as she slid into the water. Well, I did a very poor job of keeping steady, because the boat capsized, and all of our belongings fell out, including my keys. Thankfully the water was clear, but all the moss on the bottom made it very difficult to see anything. We searched for about an hour, when I was about to give up hope, a nice couple on kayaks came floating by and asked if we needed any help, I explained the situation and he was kind enough to help us out. Lucky for us, they had snorkeling gear, oh, did I mention the man was paralyzed from the waist down! He used weights to anchor himself to the sea bottom. Wow! I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. After about 45 more minuets of searching, I figured it was going to be hopeless, when all of a sudden, the man emerged from the water with my keys in hand and asked, “Are these what you’re looking for?” I was speechless, I couldn’t believe he had found them. I tried to give them some money, or at least buy them dinner, but they told us not to worry about it and they were just happy to help us. Well at this point we had about 10 minutes to return the canoe or we were going to be charged for another hour. We headed back and didn’t even get to see one Manatee. |
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1000 RATED: You’ve had a chance to play a ton of courses during your last 8 years as a pro. What are some of your all time favorites and why? Is there something you can define that makes a truly original and captivating disc golf course? |
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ERIC: Some of my favorite courses include, ZBoaz in Fort Worth, Fountain Hills in Arizona, Jones Park in Emporia KS, Rosedale in Kansas City, KS, and pretty much every course in Des Moines, IA. But my favorite course hands down would have to be Water Works in Kansas City, MO. This course has lots of elevation, and is a well designed course. Hole one is a sweet down hill 400+ foot hole with downtown Kansas City as a backdrop, If you haven’t played WW, put it on your to do list for sure. I’d say, for me, what makes an original and captivating course would be one that tests every shot in your bag. Hyzers, Anhyzers, rollers, tunnel shots, etc. not a course that you can throw 18 Hyzers or just bomb over the top of everything. A good example of this would be Milo Mciver Park in Portland OR. This is a great course with breathtaking views and does truly make you throw every shot. For me, a good course is also a well kept and maintained park where there is not a lot of trash, and it is well groomed. |
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1000 RATED: We’ve asked this question to the last two Major Champions - Doss and Feldberg, and we think it is also a great question for you: If you could make a list of these next four types of players, who would they specifically be and why? Keep in mind we want you to answer this question as if all of these players are on a card at the moment - and in this sense you are creating the ultimate foursome on a leader card. (See questions in front of Eric’s answers) |
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Who makes you nervous and gives you the biggest push? Ken Climo for sure! Why? Because he’s the man! 12x World Champ, come on Climo IS Disc Golf. They don’t call him the “Champ” for nothing. I enjoy playing with Kenny and think he gives me the biggest push because if you’re keeping up with him, you’re doing something right. . Without a doubt, Cale Leiviska. I’ve played a lot of golf with Cale over the last couple of years and not only is he a solid player, but he is always pumping the card up encouraging everyone to tear it up. I know if I’m playing bad and Cale’s on my card he will easily light a fire under me and get me back on track. Thanks Cale! Who do you or would you like to beat? This is a tough one, but I’m going to have to say Dave Feldberg. I mean he has been pretty clutch this last year winning Japan, and Worlds, not to mention his NT victories, and currently being ranked number 1 in the world. If you beat Dave, this usually means you finished somewhere toward the top. Who makes the round fun? Travis Blasé always makes the round fun. He just seems to have a certain laid back humorous attitude, that makes for an enjoyable experience. Numerous times I have finished a round of golf with Blasé and spent more time laughing than anything else. |
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1000 RATED: Our last question is always the same - Who is your favorite 1000 rated player at the moment and why? |
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ERIC: I’m going to have to go with Steve Rico on this one. I’ve played many rounds with Stevie this year and think he is one of the best players on tour, not to mention he has a great personally on and off the course. It sometimes seems like he doesn’t get the credit he deserves. He’s been playing for a long time and is a very consistent player. His explosive power off the tee is always amazing to watch. I would like to finish with thanking you for all you do, I really enjoy reading all your articles and interviews. |
ERIC: My plan the final day was to just go out, have fun, and play the way I know I can. Gregg started the day with a one stroke lead, by hole 5 I had tied it up. It was a great battle between Barsby, Nikko, and myself. We just kept pushing each other hole after hole. I believe it was hole 7 where I took a one stroke lead over Gregg, and by this time Nikko had caught up to us trailing by only one. I went on to birdie five of the next six holes, Gregg and Nikko both birdied four of them, giving me a 2 stroke lead. This is when Gregg had two sick back to back birdies on holes 14 and 15 to tie me with 3 holes to play. We both carded Birdie 4’s on the Par 5 16th, and Nikko only back by one. I knew I had to really focus and get the last 2 holes for the win. Gregg saves a good 4 after his drive hits early wood and Nikko also Pars. I have about a 15 to 20 foot putt for the Birdie 3, I make it to go up by one over Gregg and two over Nikko with the tough Par 3 18 left. I pulled out my Pink Buzzz, which had been money for me the whole day. 18 is a blind shot with OB all around the basket. When my Buzzz turned the corner I knew it was going to be pretty close, and the crowd’s reaction let me know it was good. Gregg’s shot was a little tight on the right side of the fairway, but safe. We walked as a group up to the green and that’s when I saw my disc about 8 feet out. It felt like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders. It is an unbelievable feeling to finally capture that Major win, and cap off a great season. I’m really excited about 2009. This win will hopefully secure me a nomination for player of the year which will do wonders for my confidence going into next season.
ERIC: I’m not sure if it’s soaked in yet or not, I do know this has been an amazing year. Touring around the country with Liz Lopez has been more fun than you could imagine. We played some top notch tournaments like, The Memorial, Beaver State Fling, Minnesota Majestic, and the Vibram Open. The Vibram was probably one of the best tournaments I’ve ever played, the atmosphere was amazing. Steve Dodge really knows how to cater to the pros. However I’d have to say by far my most fond memory from the road was earlier this year after the Texas State Championships. We scored some tickets to the Final Four in San Antonio to watch Kansas vs. Memphis. I am a huge Jayhawks fan so being able to witness them win a National Championship was a once in a lifetime experience.
ERIC: I’d have to say the most important piece of advice I’ve received was from LaRon “the Who Man” Harris. I remember traveling to tournaments and always looking forward to watching the top pros battle it out in the final 9. I remember watching LaRon, Crazy John, Stokley, Climo, Downtown Randy Brown, among others. However, LaRon always stood out to me, and I really looked up to him. He always told me to be confident, and don’t play scared. If you think you’re going to miss a putt, or are timid about it, most likely you are going to miss it. I molded my putting style after him. Living in Kansas, made me spin putter, because of how windy it is most of the time. He gave me the advice to always commit to my putt, find your chain and hit it. I still to this day tell myself to be confident and commit before every putt.
ERIC: Doing what I absolutely love week after week is what keeps me going. I wouldn’t change anything.
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***Thanks E-mac, it was a pleasure - and good luck next year!
***Noted Photos are a © of Steven Koye
***Image of Liz and Eric at the NCAA Finals is a courtesy of Eric McCabe
***All other images were graciously provided by and are a © of Discraft
Go HEELS!
ROCK CHALK, E~MAC!
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Way to go Eric! Thanks for all the nice words. We love the both of you, keep it up!
I thought Marcus had you at the Big Arms on the Brazos: Good win!
Congrats, E-Mac!
Way to go Eric. Great interview…! Thanks for the Des Moines props! Hope to see you @ The Challenge this year!
Eric’s da man!
Fantastic interview. Great as always Brian!
E-Mac - keep tearing it up with D’s on it!
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