New Discraft Discs Review: Z Comet and Z Force - Winners: #110 and #137, Lawrence Leonardi and Eric Jubin
BY ZAC BIBERSTINE: Let me start off with a tiny bit of background. I am a 26-year-old Ultimate Frisbee conversion that has only been in the disc golf world since mid to late 2007. That being said, I’m no seasoned pro. I’m also no expert in everything disc golf, but I know what I like. I prefer discs that I can depend on, discs that are predictable and responsive; this is what gives me the confidence necessary to play well. I also prefer comfortable discs, a disc that I don’t have to think about to throw. I tend to play by feel, and a disc that seems to meld with my hand lets me concentrate on the shot and not the prep work. I need a disc that will react to and support my strengths. And most importantly I know what I do poorly, and what I haven’t learned yet.
This is where the Comet comes in. It is easy to control, easy to manipulate, and has amazing glide. It will allow you to learn every shot, and show you exactly how you throw. Many players, young to the sport, start out with very, very stable discs. This over-stability masks many flaws in a player’s throw and release with a giant hyzer every time (trust me, I know). With a disc like the Comet, you are able to not only control the flight-path of your disc, but also learn throwing ‘from the ground up’. The Comet will hold any line as a touch disc or approach disc, will flip up and fly straight when you need a low straight shot that never fades, or will give you that ever-elusive long slow turnover.
My game developed from a forehand centric standpoint. Playing ultimate for so many years, your forehand is dominant, and is a much easier adaptation to disc golf discs, than the backhand. Learning the backhand was, and is, a much more tiresome pursuit. I learned first on a slower mid-range disc, the Buzzz, and worked my way to drivers and stable drivers. The one thing that I still am lacking is the long slow turnover. When testing the Comet, this is exactly where it fits in my game. I can already throw long anhyzer shots, but these shots incorporate stable discs and anhyzer releases. The shot I have been longing for is the one that flips up, flies straight, then ever so slowly falls right. This is precisely what the Comet will do. When thrown hard with a hyzer release, the Comet will flip up to flat and glide for days, slowly turning to anhyzer and falling off to the right. This is the first time that I have found a disc, when thrown backhand, can mimic the flight of a forehand shot… and without the skip or fade. It will float down and stay put. Putters tend to copy this flight path, but require much more air to go a long distance while the Comet’s glide enables a lower flight path.
This disc is what every new player should learn with. If there were a disc golf god, and he or she was merciful, every super-fast, crazy-stable driver would be taken out of the hands of the newcomer, and replaced with the Comet. Beginning with a disc like this would eliminate the adjustment for the one disc player, to the tournament player. To learn the technique it takes to manipulate a slow straight flying disc like the Comet, would both give a new player the necessary foundations of throwing as well some new found confidence in their accuracy. And it serves the experienced player just as well.
Now that you have used your new Comet to learn the fundamentals of throwing, fast-forward to the other end of the spectrum… the Force. This is precisely the disc for all of you distance hungry strong-arms. Or it could be a great addition to those of you trying to reach those elusive long pin positions.
The Force is an extremely fast, extremely stable, wide winged driver. If you are familiar with this thing called the Internet, I’m sure you’ve heard something about it. Rated at Discraft’s 2.0 the Force is not only fast and stable, but offers a nice amount of glide. The stability makes them choice for forehand and backhand distance. The Force can handle a good snap and high arm speed, as well as headwind. For those with power, this driver can be thrown with a little hyzer, flip up, have a full flight, and always finish predictably. It is great for big flex shots off the tee for distance. We all know that the super wide wing discs are all the rage today, and among them I think the force has the perfect formula. It’s fast, it’s high speed stable, it has great glide, its predicable, and its not overly nose angle sensitive. There are more stable discs, as there are discs with more glide, but the combination of features of the Force is textbook.
This disc will fly as far on a sweeping hyzer, as its predecessors accomplished in a full ‘s-pattern’ flight. You can tell right out of your hand that this thing is fast. This Z-plastic Force has great grip, the flight plate is thin due to the width of the wing and distribution of plastic, so the top is gummy enough to get a good grip but not floppy at all in your hand. This plastic is resilient; I’ve been throwing it for a week into trees, ice, and frozen ground. There is barely a scratch on it, let alone any dings or gouges. This disc is a staple in the bag of anyone who wants a very stable driver, but doesn’t want to sacrifice any speed or distance. The Force is so dependable; it has become my first instinct in disc selection. Give it a week, I bet you’ll like it.
Zac Biberstine #33876
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***We would like to thank Zac Biberstine for this well written and honest Discraft Review
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Two lucky winners were randomly picked from the below comments using a computerized random # generator. Each won a new Discraft Z Comet and Z Force. The winners were comment #110 (Lawrence Leonardi Jr.) and comment #137(Eric Jubin). Congratulations to both winners and thanks to everyone who signed up. We’ll have another free promotion soon!
I would love to win some new plastic! lost a few in the snow already this year and throw discraft not to mention just moved up to the pro ranks woo-woot!!!
You are 71 PDGA #’s behind me, therefore, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Just kidding, good article, I love to see how other people write about the flight of discs.
–Allen
Free plastic never hurt, unless you were hit in the head.
Brian #10745
nice review. i too have played lots of ultimate. love the comet.
jct
14044
I would love to try some new Discraft plastic! Please pick me!!!!!
that orange comet is sweet. gimmee gimmee.
good review. I havent got my hands on a force yet, but wanted to since they came out. But I never really put any thought into the Comet, might have to pick one up now.
I do love Z plastic
my Buzz and Flick are two of my “go-to” discs.
Come to daddy….
I been wanting to try some discraft’s. thinking about the comet.
I loved my Z force until i threw it in the water…. dang
Cool , I hope to Win !!!!
i want free plastic!!! haha
I love the fact that a person that has been playing for a tad over a year is writing an article on discs. Many people forget once they play for a bit how hard some discs can be to throw.
I’ve been wanting to try a Comet. Pick me!
I’ve not used either of these molds yet but I’d be happy to try them!
I can’t wait to get my hands on one of each. It was a great article, but I still wanna see for myself.
I replied. Now send it!
Toss!
I’ve been looking at the z force, but i wouldn’t mind the comet along with it.
Have an ace with the X comet now it’s time for the Z to bang the chains and then there’s the force, well I think this baby will speak for it self, gonna Park It from 400′+
Please send my comet at max weight and force right around 172g. THX and go discraft. It’s all about the consistency!
Would love to get 2 of my favorite discs in my favorite plastic
I’ve recently gone back to Comets to work on my form. Once you figure out that you can’t torque monkey on a Comet, you can put it on any line you want. Add in that glide and it’s one of the best discs you can throw. It’s great to see Discraft finally put some effort back into promoting this great disc. I’ve got a spot in my bag just waiting for one in Z.
Solid review that mirrors my experience. I’d like to put in a plug for the Discraft Surge SS ESP FLX…it makes a terrific complement to the Comet/Buzz/Cobras.
Love that Z plastic…
Comet indeed.
I have had a stack of them and always up to sharing when I discover an ultimate throwr crossin over to the dg scene. I definitely jumpin at the chance to replenish and introduce 2 more players if I ever sniff a winnings.
Thanks for the review and look fwd to more players and their tales!
The Comet sounds like what I need. Just started on Dec. 1st 08. So still trying to find a good driver I can throw. I use a star T-Bird now.
sounds like a good chance to get some good plastic… fingers crossed
sign me up.. with these discs i may be able to finally get on this site for the hot round!!
I’ve heard good things about the comet sho would like 2 try one…
sweet i’ll take ‘em..
mmmmm sweeet Z plastic, i love my sparkle force….and i love Z plastic even more, what a good combo!
heard a lot about the new z stuff. my wife has 3 comets (one first run glow) but not a new one
cant wait to get my hands on the new z stuff
I’ve thrown the comet in esp plastic but am excited to see the extra glide associated with the Z plastic.
hey free is good
I would love to win these discs
man its about time they made these in Z plastic. the comet is already awsome cant wait to try it in Z!
Would love to add some sweet new plastic to my bag.
The economy is hurting my wallet and I am desperate need of some disks
most of my disc are discraft, but i have never thrown any of the above disc. would love to. great review, i have short hands & not a lot of power, so the force is too much disc for me.
Love them Comets
Force and Comet in Z = sweet! Good article too!
Great article. I really like the way it was written. I love Discraft discs and have been wanting to get the Comet as too many people have told me how amazing a disc it is. I love throwing anhyzers and this is supposedly the disc for annys. I also think it would help me as I re-work my technique.
I have thrown the Force before and it is an awesome disc. I love it for forehands and I love the Z plastic.
sweet. i won’t buy them, but i’ll try them if i win.
I would love to give these discs a try!
force
I’d throw them.
Great review. I’ve been thinking of trying a comet for a while. Hopefully I’ll score a free one.
wow! im really curious about that z-buzz! i hear so many great things about them! it would be very nice and useful to have a mid range disk that can perform with an accurate and consistent hyzer flip!
Awesome, I cannot wait to get my hands on these babys one way or another…Get review, and I hope to firld test them as soon as the snow is gone.
Discraft….. Come to daddy!!!!
i love discraft!!! the comet is an extremely reliable disc while i haven’t tried the force yet. love discraft’s z plastic!!!!
Zac got me wanting a few comets.
I like Discraft. It’s been the brand I’ve used the most. Looking forward to trying a Comet and a Force. I recently picked up a Surge and I love it!
i would like to score these as i am already a fan of both, i have used the comet since i first started playing disc golf, i started with an old blue one which i used up until i lost it last summer, i then pu a orange esp limeted edition one to replace it and its in my bag now along with a milky white 168g sparkle z force, these two models are already among the main players in my game.
nothing beats a comet for tight tunnel shots, or that sometimes needed sweeping glide to the right shot with a controlled landing, that a forehand shot sometimes cant give you.
and the force, well like Zac, i started out forehand dominant in my game, but have really started working hard in the last few years on developing my backhand shot as well, and as Zac stated, the force for me is the driver that if i had to choose only one driver to use backhand and forehand it would be my choice as its fast, and just the right stability that i can crank on it forehand or backhand but yet not have it flip over or be so stable that it starts hyzering soon as it leaves your hand, it reminds me of the exclones i used to throw, except faster, with a very predictable long flight that you don’t have to force out of the disc…….hey ! maybe that’s why they named it the force ! may the force be with you !!
well in closing, a z comet has been on my list of discs i would like to have for awhile, but the limited runs they did of those until now made them expensive and hard to find, so i was totally stoked to hear they were making a regular run of z comets, and i would love to add a heavier force to my bag as well.
I have been wanting to try the Force!… especially in Z!
The folks with the highest PDGA member numbers need the most help (free plastic), right?!
Seriously though…good write-up. I’ve always wanted to give the Force a try (and haven’t thrown Z plastic yet). Who knows? Maybe I’ll get lucky…
love love love the comet!
I like free stuff. Please give them to me.
I have been wating for these discs in Z plastic….. Can’t wait to chuck ‘em!!!!
I want it in my life, I need it in my life!
Wooty Woot
nice review, consider doing one on the zone…..great stable putt & approach disc.
Great Review, Keep up the good work.
Fresh discraft plastic…yummm!!!
I use to throw only Innova plastic. Over the past year or so I have found that Discraft plastic has a better flight pattern for my throwing styls. Good review.
Wow! Sounds like these discs are definately worth a try. In my short time playing disc golf I’ve only thrown one Discraft model: an old, beat up EliteX Storm that I stumbled across. I might be convinced to open up to Discraft a lot more if there were a few free discs involved. *wink/nudge* LOL!
Love Discraft. I think the new logo looks retro which makes it way cool in my book. Love to have these
One of my first discs was a beat up Comet donated to me. I still have this disc in my bag and would love to throw a new and improved version. Discraft midranges have become my favorites.
Great review, i throw the comet, ridiculous is the only way to describe it.
Good piece. Makes me want to try them.
Nice discs. Cant wait to get my hands on one of those comets.
Love the look of the Z Force.
I don’t throw much Discraft, but I used to have a Comet and loved it.
THanks for the review! I just started to get into discraft. The comet sounds like a real nice mid.
I have two z forces to go with my beat up esp. LOVE the z plastic.
I can do anything with a comet. One tailwind throws it goes as long as my drivers. Nice review.
I throw both the force and the comet. will be nice to see it in a new plastic!
Nice review. I throw the LE Comet a lot and have a dozen backups since they are limited production. Can’t be too safe!
i throw both of those discs, you should give em to me =)
I would love to try out some discraft discs…all my local stores only sell Innova.
I’ve been playing since 77. Would love to try both the comet and the force.
I want that comet!
New plastic is always nice.
OK. I am standing outside. Will lightening hit?? Come and get me. The Comet will go right in the bag. The Force, I will have to work my way into that.
love the discraft and have been awaiting the z force and comet for sometime now…send em’ on home to daddy.
Glad to see a z comet available that’s not limited edition. A must have in any golfers bag!! Anyone know if the z force is more stable then the esp version? 29113
Just bought a regular Comet to go with my Surge. If I like the Comet, as I think I will, I will try the Z Comet also. I read that the Comet is a keeper. We’ll see if it can help a 62 year-old dinosaur.
You may want to try the comet in softer plastic as well.
Yeah really great text, also really looking forward to try these discs, whenever it’ll be
Good Article. Luv my Discraft plastic. The Force is an awesome disc. I will have to give the Comet a try.
I’m not sure the difference of the Force in ESP to Z. I have the ESP, but would like to try the Z. Seems to make a big difference in my Flicks and can’t believe they stopped make the 150g Z Flick which is the one I like better. I’ve never tried a comet, but I’d like to, as I like my buzzes.
I love the Elite Z plastic, would love to try these two out!
Nothing better than a Force in Z plasticand the comet is also a sweet disc for any player! Cant wait to get these in the mail! I wish they would come out with a Z Meteor:)
I’d love to try them out!
Well written article by a guy playing about the same time as me. I have a friend that throws a Comet about 50% of his shots with it at our small course. He brags about it all the time but we don’t have a Discraft dealer in the area so it’s hard to feel a new Discraft discs without buying on the internet. That’s always tough for me becuase your spending money on something you don’t know if you will like or not. Same with the Force. It’s hard to spend money on it without getting to touch it first. Anyway, nice article.
Jason
#34347
Used to throw the comet and always wanted to try it in Z!
Thanks for the reviews. I hope to see more of these.
Everyone I know that throws these, loves them. I’d give them a try for free.
love the z-comet! way preferred to the esp ones in my opinion.
I would love to win these bad boys!
Gonna have to get me a comet
That’s a long review
throwing my name in the basket for these two!
Free? Me likey! But seriously, my buddy swears by his LE Comet ESP. Zach is right, its a solid disc.
A free Comet is a good way to try it out! I do like my Force in certain situations though.
I love the comet!
Been wanting to try the Comet and I heard the free ones fly better.
Don’t like the force but Z comets are the greatest.
I have been playing since 2006 so not much longer. Started with a 150 class shark. Now that I have learned to throw properly I am throwing the Whippet-X and Excaliber with ease. However, I would be very interested in seeing how a comet would be in my hands. I currently use a crystal buzz or KC Pro roc for those long sweeping shots. Also Never used a force and if it throws like he said I would love to let one of them rip. m
Good Luck to all entrants!
Cool !
Discraft eh? I guess I’d try a free one — make me a convert if you can!
great review, looking forward to the new Z offerings
I’ve thrown a force and it’s a pretty nice disc. Haven’t tried throwing a comet yet, may have to pick one up.
The Comet has landed in my disc golf bag.
yeah comet yeah force- ill put my name in the hat puhleeze….
I just started throwing Comets after being a Roc guy for 10 years. No Roc for 3 months and I haven’t looked back!
Always up to try new plastic, maybe i can move up the ranks of professional novice.
they sound pretty solid
I wish they’d have added the meteor to production Z plastic with all those other discs.
I Win!
sweet! i have been throwing a force for some time now. definitely one of my go to discs for shots over 400 and hyzer bombs. im pumped they came out in z plastic due to z usually being a bit more stable. i also think the esp force gets kinda flippy after a bit
I can’t wait to get a lighter force, and the Z comet should be the perfect mid.
Haven’t thrown a Comet in years. Would love to try the Force in its lightest weight as well!
Go Discraft!
Zac seems to be a noob if he uses the comet for slow turnovers. its to bad that he writes that about the disc and then the rest of us read it and get the impression that thats what it’s used for. It’s really a good mid for a large variety of shots not just the late turnovers. I have yet to throw the force so i can not comment, i can’t see it replacing my x-cals or teebirds any time soon either.
Thanks 1000rated for giving me the opportunity to do this, and thanks to everyone who spent the time reading. its nice to hear the comments, and i wish you all the best of luck in this contest. For all of you who expressed interest in either disc, I hope that you find a way to get your hands on these, at least to give them a try.
‘erb’, Did you read the whole article? Yes i said the comet is good for slow late tunover shots, but i said more than that. For example, “The Comet will hold any line as a touch disc or approach disc, will flip up and fly straight when you need a low straight shot that never fades, or will give you that ever-elusive long slow turnover.” The review was simply my honest experience and perception. I also believe it to be both fair and correct. Perhaps I should have spent more time describing the other uses for the disc. However, the way this disc would impact my game quickly made its self evident. I did focus more on this part of the disc’s utilization.
Either way I’m glad that you agree that its a good midrange, but am unsure of the necessity of a personal virtual attack. If it was necessary, you should at least leave your real name.
I wish you all, new or experienced, luck in the pursuit of that perfect golf game. Ill be right beside you in that endeavor.
Both of these are great discs!
I would like to try these out!
who?? …wha ???? I’m all about trying out some new plastic. I’m sure they’re great discs.
I would love these discs. I’d toss ‘em all the time. Love trying new discs.
Please….put me in this too…..maybe make it 132. I love discraft. force is my number one favorite.
Long live Z plastic…CLEARLY the best. Thank you.
—PDGA #32617
Please enter me in the contest. I am new to the sport and trying to give all discs a try!
PDGA 38024
I would love to have these in my bag.
#36585
If the Comet is anything like the buzzz or the Innova Kite that I found, I will love it!!! And reading the product description for the Forse, that disc would fit well with my other discs…I would like to be entered in the drawing for these two discs… You can never have too many, and with me only playing for a few months, I think that I would benefit from trying other discs, and seeing what works best for me…
Always looking for new discs…
I would love to try out both discs!
bam!
I would love to try the Comet for acouple of rounds it soounds like the Disc i been looking for.
Sweet review. Thanks!
Gotta love Z!
I only throw discraft since i live in Michigan would like to try the Z comet
Another tick mark for someone jonesing to try a new Comet on the course.
Great review. He sold me. I’ll purchase a set, 1st chcance I get.
Well done, thanks…
great article i have yet 2 try either of these discs but i have heard great things about the force… i know Nate Doss keeps on in his bag and if it’s good enough 4 the world champ it’s good enough for me….
Good thing Zac writes as well as he plays
I have seen him go from goofy looking backhands to a great all around game. I use my ESP comet for a lot of my mid range shots so I would love to have one in Z.
I carry 4 ESP forces in my bag right now and wouldn’t mind having a super stable Z one in there to replace my domey ESPs.
Way to go Brian, this site wastes more work time than you would ever know
solid reviews. nice rating for only playing a year. that’s a lot of tournaments!
kick me 5 for fun. i wanna shout out the bert bus, bell’s hopslam,and the baby jesus.
Throw Innova
Z plastic is the best.
I’ve been meaning to try out a comet…
I really would love to try the comet! Even more so if it was free!
woooo
Wow that was one of the most in depth reviews I have ever read … I throw primarily innova discs but I will def have to try out the comet and force now
Free plastice i would love to have that.
Eric Lind
PDGA # 36846
i would love to see how they fly
Lepricon———-Innova has yet to put out anything comparable to the comet. Just 4 more Extra high speed drivers. Take the innova comments to an innova disc review.
29113
How ’bout that disc? I’ve got room in my bag!!!!
All I have to do is comment?
Add me to the list! I’m just now starting to throw some Discraft disc. I just purchased a new flx buzzz, and I would love to try these two out. Discraft disc aren’t as easily found to buy around me like Innova is.
Sweet discs. Colors I can spot.
I love love to try the Discraft brand. All we have here is Innova and I would love to try something different.
Keep them coming.
I found a link to this site on the discgolfersr.us site through the forum. Wow. what a cool site. Also, the above review was a good read. Thanks to Zac (who shares my name)! Here is Cali we don’t hear as much about Discraft as we do about Innova, but I am sold on the Comet. If I don’t win this thing I will buy one anyway. I am junkie to to the Innova Coyote, and it sounds very similar. I love midrange discs that are not just stable. Don’t get me wrong - I love my rocs, but there should be more to a midrange than that you know? PICK ME DUDE!
A huker of Discraft discs since 1980, I loved the hype on the Force, but dislike ESP plastic, so I waited for the Sparkle Z. Now with a stock Z run I can obtain back ups for under 20 bones, which is good. I can’t say enough about the Force; many of the folks I huk with are a decade younger and I love watching my light Force pass their discs in the fairway. Quite possibly the best disc coming out of Discraft since the Crush.
Is it too late?
Yeah…free stuff.
Thanks for the give-away. Sign me up.
Ah the legendary comet. I’m an Ultimate convert as well and always loved hucking an Ultrastar. Actually I’m not really a convert I suppose as I love both sports. I’ve never thrown a comet. I love a good beat in Roc though and someone told me it’s like that off the bat. That got my attention. I’m a fan of finesse discs. Thanks for the contest.
Thanks Discraft. pdga # 31205
Lets do it. I’m always up for plastic I didn’t have to win or buy. I haven’t thrown these disc so can’t really pry too much for them but there’s hope in the heart.
I would really love to win a comet because how awesome would it be to have a….
“Hallie’s Comet”
Would love to win something.
Never really throw Discraft. Give me a chance! Thanks
Great review, it covered a lot of information in a short piece. There were a couple typos, for example: “The Force is an extremely fast, extremely stable, wide winged driver. If you are familiar with this thing called the Internet, I’m sure you’ve heard something about it. Rated at Discraft’s 2.0 the Force is not only fast and stable, but offers a nice amount of glide.”
But all in all, a very informative article. I can confirm everything you said about the Force because I just got one in ESP, and I’d love to double it with a Z.
-Matt Shustack
#37791
Everyone should own a Comet. Even if you don’t keep it in your bag, there’s no disc better for telling you what’s going wrong with your form if you find yourself in a rut.
great review. I’ve got an x comet that I love, the z would be a gear counterpart.
SICK!
I hope I win!
Nice write up!
Nice article bro.
those look like some nice discs.
awesome! the comet was my first disc about 8 years ago. I want the newest version. hook me upppppppppppppp!
Good review! ; )
yeah sweet stuff
nice review. I want one!!!
Comets rock. Glad to see they come in Z again.
Keep it up 1000rated.com!
Awesome plastic, would love to check em out. nice review too… very honest!
Great review hook it up please!
I’m just starting to throw Discraft plastic and I would love to extend my collection of Discraft discs
I have not thrown the Comet but I have a buddy who raves about it. I am more of a Roc man myself, but if you pick me I will give it a shot.
Good read, I’m looking to try both of these discs. Go discraft!
Wow, great review.
I’d love to win these discs!
Also, I’m going to think about recommending the Comet to every new player I find. In Z plastic, it would also last them a long time and be their BFF.
mmmm….. new discs….
Good review from a newer player like myself!
i just started to throw discraft buzzz’s are awesome ..i would love to try a force and comet…thanks
my address id
osvaldo nunez jr
33 bethel st
hartford ct 06120
i love the comet being an old ultimate player. it goes right on the lines that i imagine it should!
Can’t wait to get some of these in my bag for sure
I just started to throw a flx buzz and hear good things about the Comet and Force.
Cant wait to try these out!
Good review from someone who has been playing for such a short time.
Z-Comet is a really good disc for anyone. I have not tried a Z-Force,yet.
Recieved a pair of them last week, didn´t have any spare time to try them out yet!
I’ve begun throwing Comets for the sme attributes covered in the review. I wish I had started with it.
I’ve never thrown the Force, as I already throw competing discs, but I’d be willing to give it try.
Good well thought out reviews.
Im so wanting a Z-comet, the comet is a great disc… havent used the force yet but Im gonna get one to try out soon!
Me Me Me!! I would love to throw the Z Comet and me likey the Force
Great chance to try two highly anticipated discs!
I used to throw the comet all the time until the buzz came out would like to try the new z plastic. have a force and use it often for my hyzer shots. thanks for choosing me.
love the force can’t wait to try the comet!
Throw my name into the contest. Thanks…
Comet has been a staple of the discraft line up for many years now. The z comet is great because it keeps it’s characteristics even longer. The z force is so sweet because of it’s predictable stability.
J. Pittman # 14976
can’t wait to give these a shot
count me in
Count me in I love these discs! Discraft is well on it’s way!
a comment…
Ok, we’ve already got a lot of plastic, but I still like winning! Plus, it advertises your site and we can give it away at a tournament! Thanks
Z comet sounds sooooo sweet!
i want to win
I got my Z-Drones already and it’s insanely overstable.
I keep both of these molds in my bag and would love to try the force in zespecially if its more overstable than the ESP!
PDGA # 28811