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Interview with Mark Ellis - PDGA #7423

Now semi-famous after being involved in a series of Discraft “Pro-Clinic” videos, Mark Ellis is a familiar face. If you watch one of his videos, read one of his discussion forum posts or chat with him on discgolfersr.us, you’ll find he’s passionate, competitive, well spoken and deeply involved in many levels of the game.

We caught up with Mark and had a chance to ask him about his experience with the Discraft videos, his putting confidence clinic and more…

1000 RATED: One of the most respected teachers in the game for some time, you’ve had a chance to oversee and help develop some widely distributed and very popular Discraft videos. How did you come to take part in this endeavor and what is your favorite responsibility of being involved in these productions? Also, in a general sense, what overall benefit do you think these videos give players and why?

MARK: Youtube.com is an amazing cultural phenomenon. Because of its popularity, the Discraft Videos have been widely viewed. Before the videos I had a hand in teaching hundreds of disc golfers one on one. Now with the videos, I have had a hand in teaching hundreds of thousands of disc golfers. At first it surprised me to be recognized on disc golf courses due to the videos. Now it happens almost every time I walk onto a course.

When I started playing I had the benefit of getting lessons from really good Pros. Most people do not have the same chance but through the magic of the internet can get the next best thing, a video lesson.

While there is no single right way to throw a disc and conversely no wrong way either, if you go watch any 1000 Rated player (How is that for an early plug?), most of them have pretty similar form. There is a good reason for that. Good form makes the game easier, so much easier. A player with good form, even if they miss a shot will miss it by less. A player with good form is less likely to be injured. A player with good form will improve faster and have a higher ceiling on their skill potential. A player with good form throws smooth and balanced.

The first step in developing good form is to be exposed to it. If you don’t know what it looks like then you are only relying on instinct. Unfortunately most instincts are wrong when it comes to throwing a golf disc. Golf discs are engineered to be much more overstable than beach Frisbees. That overstability allows the disc to be thrown with great power and control if it is thrown correctly.

The idea behind the Discraft Pro Clinics was to have a variety of Pros teaching and demonstrating individual shots and techniques. I approached Brian Sullivan, Discraft’s marketing guru, with the idea of a series of videos and he convinced the company to invest in video equipment. So we started with me as the teacher (talking head) and Brian doing everything else (filming, editing and publishing).

For any readers who have not been exposed to the videos, they can be seen at Discraft.com or at Youtube.com, search for Discraft Clinics. I have had a hand in six published videos so far. We have filmed several videos which are still in the editing process. We shot a Backhand Clinic, principally taught by Scott Papa, which should be very good. The backhand is the primary drive for most players and therefore is the most basic shot in the game. We filmed an Anhyzer Clinic with a stack of Pros teaching the shot. An anhyzer is the most difficult drive in the game and is an especially interesting shot since there are different ways to throw it. We also did a Women’s Clinics where we interviewed Pro women for their perspective on the game and how it felt to beat up on the guys. Look for those and others to come out soon.

I was in Lansing, Michigan the day before a tournament, practicing a temporary layout and had some funny reactions. A disc golfer chick recognized me and said, “Hey, you’re the dude from the videos! Where is the rest of the team?” Without waiting for me to answer she turned around a looked at the other visible holes. “Where’s Nate? Where’s Cale? Where’s Mike Randolph?” Evidently she figured we all travel together on the Discraft jet. Or maybe she was looking for the cute guys on the team.

As I threw a few warm up holes players came over, introduced themselves and joined in. Then when more players came swarming in, I overheard one guy say to his buddy, “This guy is like Forest Gump.” I’m trying to decide if that was a compliment and or an insult.

The great thing about teaching the game is the enthusiasm of new players. There is a delight in learning each new technique which I get to relive as a teacher.

1000 RATED: You talk a lot about the importance of putting and consistent putting practice. What should players do to focus (as well as remain focused) on this integral part of the game? Can you talk in depth about your putting confidence program and how it affects players over the 30 day routine?

MARK: The Putting Clinic is for hard core players; players who are willing to put time and practice into their games. It is designed for serious players who are seriously flawed when it comes to putting performance in tournaments. I always encourage any Pros who play in my division to avoid it. You guys are already too good. You don’t need it.

There is a process to becoming a good putter under pressure. First you must be able to make putts consistently in practice. Then you must be able to transfer that skill to pressure situations like tournaments. If you can’t hit the shot when there is no pressure then you will not do so when the pressure builds. Now, I’m not saying that you can never have a hot hand because we all get hot from time to time. Rather I am talking about putting consistently well under pressure. The key to success under pressure is having confidence.

Confidence is magical. Why it works is a mystery of the human psyche but unquestionably it does work. And it works both ways. Add confidence and performance improves. Subtract confidence and performance diminishes or even crashes down hard.

One of the Discraft Pro Clinics I did introduced a putting confidence clinic. In this clinic a player putts every day for a month. They purposely putt at a close enough range (for their individual skill level, whatever that is) so that they make most of their putts. Putting skill and confidence is established at close range. Players develop a comfort zone by repetition. Slowly and gradually that comfort zone expands with practice. After a couple weeks a short putt looks automatic because the player has earned their confidence.

Confidence created by earning it is very different than what passes for confidence based on positive self talk. A player can say to himself he is going to make this putt. Very fine but what happens when he misses the putt? All the positive talk evaporates. But confidence based on continuous success in practice is the real thing. Missing a putt or even a couple does not change a player’s beliefs when it is backed up by real confidence.

When a player is going through the month long clinic there will be days he cannot miss. Everything goes in. All that practice and confidence wells up and the player feels like a putting God. But inevitably there will come the off day: the day where the putts are close but refuse to go in. This, by the way, is the natural order of putting. Even great putters have off days. Great putters though don’t lose their confidence. They know they are going to make the next one. If that misses then they know they will wake up tomorrow and they will putt great like usual.

But for someone who is not a great putter, when the putts stop going in, it can destroy their confidence. That is why the clinic goes for a month. The idea is to teach a player how to use the clinic to overcome the bad days. So say a player going through the clinic has one of those really bad days. The next day he goes back to his practice regime and reestablishes his comfort zone. His confidence gets restored and he wants another chance. He then expects to make the next putt.

So the Putting Clinic is the first phase of a process to become a good pressure putter. After a month you will feel like a putt in your comfort zone is locked in. Then the second phase is to transfer that confidence to competitive rounds. For some the transfer is easy for some it is very hard. It really depends on the mental toughness and true confidence of the player. But no one starts out in life being mentally tough. It is a skill we all have to develop in many different areas of life.

1000 RATED: What major mistakes do you think newer disc golfers make that affect their game negatively over the long run and how is it possible to go about correcting these mistakes once they are ingrained in players’ muscle memory? Personally, is there something specific that you’ve had trouble with over the years that has been hard to fix?

MARK: There are two common errors beginning players make. One deals with throwing form, the other deals with getting into competition. Let me start with the second.

When is the right time to start playing competitively? After a week or two of practice. Not after a few years. Not when you beat all your buddies. Not when you throw over 400 feet. I played my first tournament a week after I threw my first golf disc.

The clock does not start ticking on your development until you start playing with and against good players. There are some players who play with their same group of buddies for years, which basically insure their game will stagnate for years. The way to get better is play with good players. Don’t be afraid. Don’t be concerned you are not good enough. Find your local leagues and tournaments and start next weekend. Enter the lowest division they offer. Try your best. Don’t worry about the rest.

The earlier you find good players the quicker you will learn and develop good form. Those great Pros started the same way you did. They didn’t invent the game. They learned from good players or they would not be where they are now. You will find most good players are happy to give advice to new players.

There are two things which are expected of new players. Violate these rules and you will be treated like a rookie and good players will avoid playing with you. First show great courtesy during play. I’m referring to rules of courtesy, not just being nice to others. You need to learn when it is your turn to throw and how not to distract other players when it is their turn to throw. This sounds easy but is often messed up. The more advanced the player, the more you can learn from them and the more they expect tournament level courtesy from others. Rather than guess how to do this, ask for help in understanding the rules. Most low level players, even tournament players do a poor job of courtesy. What passes for courtesy in the Amateur divisions is very different than what is expected in the Pro ranks. As a beginning player you should make it your goal to be the most courteous player out there.

Your second job as a beginning player is to not give up on yourself. You will throw some bad shots. You will throw some horrendous shots. So be it. No one starts out throwing like Ken Climo. No matter how poorly you play keep trying hard. Don’t scream and curse and kick your bag. Control your temper and try to throw the next shot better. I don’t care what others may do. Those acting out are no license for you to do so. Control your emotions and keep your head in the game. You are on your way to becoming a good player and will be more welcome in groups you can learn from.

The second common error for new players deals with throwing form. Most players rely on one throwing form too much. Most starting players who throw backhand throw with a classic hyzer form. In a classic hyzer form the player bends forward at the waist, releases low and follows through high. So the disc goes out straight for a ways then hyzers strongly to one side (to the left if the player is right handed). But a hyzer shot does not help when the fairway goes straight or bends to the right. Now the player tries to use the same form and throws a flippier disc, hoping the disc will do the work. Or he throws with the same arm and body motion and twists his wrist on release to get the disc to flip over.

It is difficult to describe in words what is obvious on a video. The two videos we shot on backhand form and anhyzer shots address exactly this issue. The short answer is that a player throwing a straight shot should keep their posture upright, not bent forward at the waist. To throw an anhyzer do the opposite of bending forward at the waist, instead arch backwards.

So is good form essential? No, there are some very skilled players who throw with poor form. Which proves that with enough practice even poor form can be somewhat overcome. But imagine how good those players could be with good form!

Watch great players and they use distinctively different throwing motions for hyzers, straight shots and anhyzers. The better your form on a shot the larger your margin of error is. So with good form you don’t have to throw it perfect to get it to work.

It is not easy to learn new form. It takes time and practice and patience and trial and error. You will get worse before you get better. But the payoff is superb.

1000 RATED: What was your first disc golf experience and how did you initially get the proverbial disc golf bug? Also, when was it that you happened to become a part of Team Discraft and how did it happen?

MARK: I was 39 years old and looking for disc golf when it found me.

I have always been an adrenaline junkie. When I was in high school I discovered the thrill of tournaments on the debate team. I went to college on a Debate scholarship where I immersed myself in tournaments. Later (for the next 20 years) I played in softball leagues and tournaments. I also practiced law, specializing in Criminal Defense, which is an adrenaline junkies’ dream. Eventually I found racquetball, which is a sport which fit my limited athletic skills. I got hooked on racquetball tournaments and played them across the country for six years, moving up through the ranks. I was at the end of my racquetball career when I discovered disc golf. In the sport of racquetball, if you win you get moved up and out of your division. I got to the top of the Amateur divisions and was looking at the dead end of playing Pro. Middle-aged, pudgy lawyers have no chance in the Pro ranks of racquetball where speed and quickness are critical. So I was looking for my next tournament sport.

My racquetball buddy, Darren Harper, called me to tell me he found this new game called disc golf. Off we went to Wagner Park in Royal Oak, Michigan in October of 1993. I stopped on the way and purchased some golf discs but pulled a Whamo 165 gram Frisbee out of storage because I knew how to throw that from back in my college days..

When we got to the course I tested the new golf discs. They didn’t fly right; they just hyzered hard to the left. I told Darren these golf discs sucked and pulled out my old Whamo lid. I could throw it dead-nuts straight, backhand, forehand, overhand wrist flip or between my legs and have it go up to 100 feet. Darren was not impressed. Not that he could do much better but he claimed to have met this guy who could throw a disc much farther and control it. I was skeptical that anyone could control a golf disc. It was then I was introduced to Gary Laura. Unbeknownst to me he was the top Pro in the state at the time. On his first shot Gary threw a Roc on a perfect line about 300 feet. I was shocked. I was also hooked. I knew I could learn to do that. It’s just form and snap and practice. I found out there were lots of disc golf tournaments and went to Addison Oaks for my first event the next weekend.

My early teachers were Gary Laura, Mark Bethel and Al Schack, all fine Pros with good form (Al is the reigning World Champion in Pro Masters). They were nice enough to teach me and Darren the basics of the game and brought us along to tournaments. Basically they recognized that Darren had mad skills and was destined to be a Pro (which turned out to be true, Darren is sponsored by Discraft and is employed by Discraft, molding discs) and they let me tag along. I was happy to ply them with beer in exchange for their coaching.

While Darren had the golden arm with both power and a soft touch, I plodded along, slowly figuring things out. I had two major problems: no power and no putt. My best drives barely covered 300 feet and I was the worst putter, maybe the worst putter ever. Seriously, I had people tell me I was the worst. My friend Gale Vaughn told me that not only was I the worst putter ever to play the game but that he could not bear to watch me putt because just watching me wrecked his putting game.

My coaches all threw backhand, so I did too. After about 3 years of playing, my right knee gave out. With the bad knee I couldn’t throw backhand drives so in order to continue playing the game I started teaching myself forehand, using the same form as a racquetball shot.

During my early years in the game it was obvious that my power was so limited I would not make much of a mark as a player. So instead I contributed to events and organizations. In 1995 I was elected to the PDGA Board of Directors as the Competition Director, and invested my efforts doing PDGA stuff, helping with the World Championships and running a few Supertour Events (now called NT’s).

As a player, I was graduating from Am 2 when my knee gave out. Since I couldn’t drive with any accuracy as I learned a forehand, I jumped up to the Pro divisions. I couldn’t have cashed in Amateur divisions anyway so I figured I might as well donate in the Pros. At least I got to play with good players. I was DFL (dead freaking last) in my first 17 Pro tournaments. Not that I really cared because I was learning a new drive where I threw with good power. It was fun to go from weenie arm to solid power. I also went from being a right hander to a virtual lefty (righty forehand shots spin counterclockwise, just like a lefty backhand).

I served on the PDGA Board of Directors for 7 years. During that time I chose to keep my Amateur status even though I played in Pro divisions for the last several years. As I kept practicing my game was coming along so I had the thrill of cashing and declining the money sometimes.

While I sat on the Board, I purposely tried and threw discs from the various manufacturers. But I lived in Michigan, which is the headquarters for Discraft and the owner, Jim Kenner, was a personal friend. I had been off the Board for a couple years when Jim invited me onto Team Discraft. I threw mostly Discraft by then and figured it would give me greater access to teaching and promoting the game so I accepted. OK, the free discs didn’t hurt either.

1000 RATED: Who had a big influence on your disc golf development early on? What do you think are some of the most important lessons you have learned during your career that have made you a solid 970 rated player and why?

MARK: Hey. I’m a solid 979 rated player! This is a higher percentile in Grandmasters than a 1000 rated player is in Open. Or put another way my rating is no great shakes in Open but it is pretty lofty for the old guys. Ok, those are just excuses. I admit it; it is my goal to hit 1000 rating one day.

The most important lessons I learned in sports came from my racquetball days. I found a great coach, Stu Hastings, and took lessons from him for the six years I played the tour. Stu taught me how to develop good form then practice it. Not occasional practice but consistent, long-term practice. Before meeting Stu, I had played racquetball regularly for 16 years. I was just an average hack in the YMCA and played with my buddies several mornings a week.

Once I learned good form on shots and started drilling (practicing a particular skill to exhaustion) I started chewing up the lower divisions in tournaments and trouncing the former deities at the YMCA. But it wasn’t just me. I watched new players come into Stu’s program who were terrible and within a year or two they were darn good. When I started disc golf tournaments I knew with practice I could master the basic shots. It never really occurred to me that I could succeed in the Pro divisions until I found a forehand drive that gave me the power to hang with the bigger boys. And, of course, I had to learn how to putt. And learn I have. I will never be a great putter but I am a good putter (you know the old truism, great putters are born, good putters are made).

I have always been good under pressure. Hundreds of tournaments and hundreds of trials in the courtroom have solidified that. I realize that most of my competitors have superior athletic gifts but very few of them are willing to practice as much as I do. Once I got sponsored I figured that if I was going to masquerade as a good player, I should give it a real effort. So I have used it as a motivational tool. Now I even cross-train. Don’t tell any of the old guys.

1000 RATED: Michigan is a vibrant disc golf state. This partly (much like Innova in California) has to do with Discraft’s influence on the area. On the other hand, a variety of clubs within the Wolverine State are flourishing and generating interest from players all all ages. What do you think other than Discraft’s influence helps push your membership rate? While both the Ann Arbor and Kalamazoo ranks help garner more attention to the sport, why is it this state (much like Wisconsin) can create such an enormous base? Does it have to do with available land; perhaps park interest and their willingness to work with the clubs? Also, What is your favorite part about being involved in Michigan disc golf?

MARK: Michigan is a hotbed for disc golf because of Discraft. Jim Kenner and his progeny have had a hand in designing many of the courses in Michigan. Having lots of courses is a good thing but having lots of great courses is a great thing. Great courses grow great players. Great players grow more great players. It is a cycle.

Discraft has consistently promoted and sponsored the sport for years. Michigan, being the home state of Discraft, has benefited immensely. We owe an eternal debt to Jim Kenner for all he has done and continues to do. And just like Innova’s impact in California and the Carolinas, we see a continuous flow of fine players and courses and tournaments come out of those areas.

Michigan has a large base of players because we have lots of courses with more coming every year. Thank goodness for the new ones because our established courses get overrun during our few months of warm weather each year.

You mentioned Ann Arbor and K’zoo, which both have national reputations but there are new courses and tournaments popping up all over the State. The western shore of Lake Michigan has Shelby, Ludington and Traverse City, all with superb courses, which could serve as a great venue for a future World Championships. That area is a little slice of disc golf heaven.

My favorite part of being from Michigan is that I can play in tournaments year round and don’t need to run them myself. There are so many strong clubs willing to run fine events that I can concentrate on being a player and a teacher, rather than a TD.

1000 RATED: This may go hand in hand with the last question. “True” winter golf is something a certain majority of the disc golf populous may never understand. While “Ice Bowl” founder Rick Rothstein may have stated “no wimps no whiners” long ago, the average Michigan player has a specific interpretation of this concept that others will always take for granted. What winter experiences have you and your comrades had to deal with over the years that others might be astonished by? Are you a winter disc golf aficionado or do you somewhat despise the snow bound links?

MARK: Baby, I play year round. I actually like winter better than summer for golfing. Summer has heat, humidity and bugs: the terrible trio. The terrible trio can only be suffered through; they cannot be avoided. In summer the public courses in my area are overflowing with players on nice evenings and weekend days. Thankfully Jim Kenner and Todd White have private courses.

Winter has cold and snow and ice. Those conditions can be endured with the right clothes and boots with ice cleats (sheet metal screws drilled into the soles). Winter is only obnoxious at the end of the season when you are ready for a change and the calendar claims it is spring.

I have always liked playing the game in crazy weather. So storms and big wind are fun for me and my die-hard buddies. I am not a huge fan of rain only because it is very difficult to keep a good grip on my forehand drives. I don’t really care if I get wet so long as I can keep a dry throwing hand and a dry spot on a disc but unfortunately that is more difficult than it sounds. So rain is something I tolerate rather than enjoy. Hard ice rain is the worst.

For golfers from warmer climates “ice rain” probably sounds like a weird term. Sometimes the temperatures at ground level are below freezing or even quite a bit below freezing. But in the clouds where rain forms, it is warmer. As the rain falls it starts to turn to any icy substance until it hits and freezes on you and everything else. When you get heavy ice rain and strong winds blowing sideways you have found some really tough conditions. But those conditions only last a few hours. It is not like high temperatures which may last for weeks or months in some climates. So I would never trade weather patterns with Florida or Texas or Louisiana. Now northern California or Oregon or Washington State, well, maybe I would trade them depending on the rain quotient.

So the challenge of winter is being able to play effectively in the elements but staying warm is normally easy to accomplish. Summer is just uncomfortable. The only really great season is fall. I love fall. I want fall to last twice as long.

1000 RATED: Disc golf content, information and quality instruction are changing with the availability of the internet, the constant need for disc golf data and the steady rise of passion for the game. Do you think it’s a possibility that we will one day see a school of disc golf or a highly coveted disc golf camp? If so, would you like to be a part of something like this?

MARK: I would love to teach and attend a disc golf skills camp. If you look at the best players in the world in major sports, as good as they are, they still have coaches. Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Lance Armstrong and Michael Phelps were reportedly pretty good at their sports and all of them had or have coaches. We all could benefit from good coaching. I would like to break down my form on video and see what it looks like in slow motion. I would love to get good coaching on a backhand drive. Maybe my knee has recovered enough to let me go back and develop at least some of it. I probably could modify my form in a way that causes less stress on my knee.

There is very little formal instruction in disc golf. It is mostly buddies helping buddies try to get better. Eventually a disc golf skills camp will happen. When it does, sign me up. I want in.

I run mini-training sessions several times a week. When I go out to play, before I step on the course, I organize little made up games to work on particular skills. Today we practiced on midrange anhyzer shots. I purposely seek out players willing to practice with me because solo practice is too slow and boring. Most players don’t want to practice. They want to play. Ok, I like to play too, but I find the game is much more fun if I play it well so, for me, that means I need to practice.

1000 RATED: We asked this same question to Steve Wisecup and we think it is also a perfect question for you. Where do you think the game goes from here? There are possibly a couple hundred thousand casual players on the courses, but only 12,000 or so current PDGA members. Is there anything you’d like to see happen that would continue steady growth - perhaps you can define and explain your personal manifesto on the way to pro disc golf exposure and/or pro disc golf fanaticism?

MARK: Disc golf is gaining recognition and popularity but it is a long way from attracting fame and fortune. Disc golf will continue its current trend until a watershed event happens to the game. I predict (let me adjust my crystal ball properly), the big event will come in one of two ways. Either a corporation will adopt disc golf as its marketing tool or a major sporting goods manufacturer will jump into the disc golf market. Will either event change us into a household name? Probably not because we don’t have enough interested viewers.

All the traditional sports have one important thing that disc golf does not: interested viewers. Interested viewers are people who want to watch the game and will seek it out on TV and/or buy tickets to watch it live. We have a severe lack of interested viewers. People who are not disc golfers will not watch it if it is free on TV and even fellow disc golfers will not pay to see it.

Without viewers, advertisers have little interest in us. Does this mean that disc golf can never generate adequate interest to bring it to the mainstream? No but we are not close at the moment. This is no insult to the game. I don’t love it any less because it is not popular with the media or the general population.

Disc golf has lots of things going for it. We are new and cool and addictive. The sport is growing very fast and we have the edginess of skateboarding or beer pong. We attract the alternative lifestyle crowd and the kids love us. We are also active and healthy and a favorite pastime of the old hippies. Our charm is our most marketable feature. In a couple generations our numbers of players will be our most marketable feature.

So when corporate America decides to smile upon the sport there will be a substantial, if momentary, upheaval. And the corporation doing the investing will make whatever rules suits them even if it offends the old guard (that would you and me, we are the old guard). Most of the top players will jump at the chance to make more money and they will abandon their sponsors and the PDGA tour in a heartbeat if that is what it takes based on the new rules. So I see somebody stealing the Pros (or at least borrowing them) somewhere down the road. That is fine. The PDGA has always been about the Amateurs and the grass roots development of the game and will continue on even if the Pros go off on their own.

The new reality may not have much staying power. The sport will gain some notoriety and exposure but it may not be enough to create what the sport really needs for long term legitimacy: interested viewers.

Disc golf lacks two of the ingredients humans are always drawn to: sex and danger. Sports which have both will always do well (cheerleaders and sacking the quarterback). Just one of the two is a good start (look at Beach Volleyball (sex) and Mixed Martial Arts (danger)). If the sport has neither then it needs “common experience”. Soccer and baseball are not all that exciting to watch unless you played them when you were young. That is where disc golf needs to draw from, a “common experience”. So a few generations from now as the sport continues to grow and it becomes something everyone tries as they are growing up we will grow an audience of interested viewers.

The good news is that we are living the Golden Age of Disc Golf. It is still free and fun and unsullied. We can easily watch the best players in the world, shake their hands and get their autographs. Most good athletes, within a year or a few of diligent addiction can play the game at what passes for a Pro level. Disc golf is a World Class hobby. Except for the fun and the competition, it is not presently a good career. But if I was a 20-something stud athlete I would do everything I could to live on tour for as long as the dream held out.

Look at what Dave Feldberg and Avery Jenkins have done. They not only live the dream on the PDGA tour, they also got college degrees so they will be able to pursue a traditional career (if they choose) when the time comes.

While we are talking the pros and cons of the sport, let me mention this: disc golf’s greatest attribute is not always recognized. It is a phenomenal life time sport. There are lots of sports which are good for young kids. But very few sports stay with you and help you health-wise like disc golf. Look at the benefits: good exercise, low impact, cheap, easy to build basic skills and lots of fresh air. Oh, and one more, addictive as hell. I am in my 50’s and most of my contemporaries have retired from athletic pursuits. Yet old folks need exercise more than young kids do. In my opinion, few sport compare with disc golf as a life long pursuit.

1000 RATED: Can you tell us about your favorite things and players in the sport including your favorite 1000 rated player at the moment?

MARK: First I want to apologize to everyone and everything I am leaving out. And I would like to thank my sponsor, Discraft, for making the worlds finest flying discs.

The Frisbee family has had a new addition in the form of a communication website known as DiscgolfersR.us. It is a social network, like Facebook for disc golfers. It resembles the PDGA discussion board but is much friendlier. I would like to give a shout out to my friends there and Terry Calhoun for making it happen.

My favorite disc is the Rattler but I also love Magnets, Buzzz’s, Flashes, Crushes and Rogues. My favorite disc golf artists are Tom Holsten, John Notenboom, Tony Kroes and Marnie White (I collect disc golf art). My favorite doubles partners are Carleton Howard, Kenny Lee and Critter Bill Themm. My favorite tournaments, past and current are the Big Freeze (Milwaukee, Wisconsin), The Wisconsin Team Tournament (Sandy Point Resort), the USDGC (South Carolina), National Doubles (Round Rock, Texas) and the Michigan State Finals (Ludington).

My favorite folks to play with are the old guys, Masters age and up. Old guys are more fun and handle the competition better, that is to say we actually like each other. The Open division has a harder edge. So some of my favorite old guys to play with are David Greenwell, Dr. Rick Voakes, Joe Mela, Jim Oates, J. Michael Barry, Scott Papa, Joe Gill, Chas Ford, Dave Dunipace, Leroy Jenkins, Lightening John Bentling, J-Bird Matthes, Eric Vandenberg, Stan McDaniel, Lavone Wolfe, Brian Hoeniger, Bart Zandstra, Jim Schultz, Fast Mac Mc Kinney, Mark Martin, Kirk Yoo, Stork and Brad Hammock (If all these old guys were in one division, I probably come in last). Oh, and every other old guy in Michigan. Michigan has a really good group. My favorite beers after the round are Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Bells Two Hearted Ale and whatever hoppy concoction Todd White is brewing at the moment.

If I had to pick one golfer who is 1000 rated and is a favorite then for sure I am going to pick a lefty because lefties have to compete in a righty world where the courses are designed against us. Since Scott Martin is retired, I guess I have to pick Joe Mela. Joe “The Technician” Mela is amazing. His is a lefty without exceptional power but plays right hyzer tunnel courses with superb control, putting and has some of the greatest trick shots in the game. He has perfect form. He has fun when he plays. His rollers are more accurate than my air shots. I have only played with Joe a couple times but I have seen enough to know that when I grow up I want to be Joe Mela. When I get old I want to be Peter Shive.

***We would like to Mark for taking time to answer our questions
***Headshot courtesy of Mark Ellis
***All other photos were graciously provided by and are a © of Discraft
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Josh Lotto on March 1st, 2009 at 11:05 pm

heer heer, thanks mark!

Dion on March 1st, 2009 at 11:46 pm

Great interview! Go Discraft!

shermannn on March 2nd, 2009 at 12:07 am

Mark Ellis is one cool dude. nice interview. lovin the stuff about his disc golf history. thanks.

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Oh yeah… hopefully Discraft can start finishing more videos soon. We all love them, but we would like to see the rest of them whenever someone gets the time or the motivation. Any chance of a DVD we can purchase?

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по тому как именно надо программирвать на данном языке я воплотил это в данный блог.
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